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Group: DynoMotion Message: 1132 From: bb_lazar Date: 5/12/2011
Subject: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
I have some Nanomotion AB5 drivers for HR8 model Piezo motors. These have control inputs which says the following in a table in the manual;

I/O Port Pinout(DB25 connector)
Pin1 -> Vin+ -> Input -> 0 to 10VDC Analog Control
Pin2 -> GND -> Ground ->
.
.
.
Pin14 -> Vin- -> Input -> 0 to -10VDC Analog Control
Pin15 -> GND -> Ground
.
.

Where I assume the Grounds are all Analog Ground.

How do I physically connect this driver to the Kanalog with AGND & AOut DAC output on port JP11?

Thanks
Group: DynoMotion Message: 1133 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 5/12/2011
Subject: Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
Hi,
 
I'm not sure what they mean.  Did you try Googling and researching for manuals or other information?
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 1134 From: bb_lazar Date: 5/13/2011
Subject: Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
Hi Tom,


I think I may have found the answer on page 16, Fig 4 of the AB5 driver manual.

Nanomotion Tech Documents

7th one from the bottom; "AB5 and AB51 Driver User Manual " . ( Can't seem to put a direct link, it saves as an *.aspx extension) 

It shows a single ended Analog input connection to the driver/amplifier.

So the Kanalog outputs are connected as follows to the amp;
(Kanalog)GND -> (AB5) Vin(-)
(Kanalog) JP11 Pin1 -> (AB5) Vin(+)

Note: the GND at the AB5 Driver/Amp is connected to the Vin(-) at the AB5 end.

Does this make sense to you?

Thanks,
Mark


--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure what they mean.  Did you try Googling and researching for manuals
> or other information?
>
> Regards
> TK
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bb_lazar bb_lazar@...
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:34:45 AM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
>
>  
> I have some Nanomotion AB5 drivers for HR8 model Piezo motors. These have
> control inputs which says the following in a table in the manual;
>
>
> I/O Port Pinout(DB25 connector)
> Pin1 -> Vin+ -> Input -> 0 to 10VDC Analog Control
> Pin2 -> GND -> Ground ->
> .
> .
> .
> Pin14 -> Vin- -> Input -> 0 to -10VDC Analog Control
> Pin15 -> GND -> Ground
> .
> .
>
> Where I assume the Grounds are all Analog Ground.
>
> How do I physically connect this driver to the Kanalog with AGND & AOut DAC
> output on port JP11?
>
> Thanks
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 1135 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 5/13/2011
Subject: Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
Yes that looks correct to me.
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 1137 From: bb_lazar Date: 5/13/2011
Subject: Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
Tom,

Great. I got confused since the Kanalog doesn't have V+/V- control
signals that I have seen on other controllers.
So it's not strictly a differential voltage output control, and it has
to be wired like this to any amp with differential inputs I would
assume?


--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Yes that looks correct to me.
> TK
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bb_lazar bb_lazar@...
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 12:21:25 AM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
>
> Â
> Hi Tom,
>
>
> I think I may have found the answer on page 16, Fig 4 of the AB5
driver manual.
>
> Nanomotion Tech Documents
>
> 7th one from the bottom; "AB5 and AB51 Driver User Manual " . ( Can't
seem to
> put a direct link, it saves as an *.aspx extension)Â
>
>
> It shows a single ended Analog input connection to the
driver/amplifier.
>
> So the Kanalog outputs are connected as follows to the amp;
> (Kanalog)GND -> (AB5) Vin(-)
> (Kanalog) JP11 Pin1 -> (AB5) Vin(+)
>
> Note: the GND at the AB5 Driver/Amp is connected to the Vin(-) at the
AB5 end.
>
> Does this make sense to you?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes tk@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm not sure what they mean. Did you try Googling and
researching for manuals
> >
> > or other information?
> >
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: bb_lazar bb_lazar@
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:34:45 AM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > I have some Nanomotion AB5 drivers for HR8 model Piezo motors. These
have
> > control inputs which says the following in a table in the manual;
> >
> >
> > I/O Port Pinout(DB25 connector)
> > Pin1 -> Vin+ -> Input -> 0 to 10VDC Analog Control
> > Pin2 -> GND -> Ground ->
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > Pin14 -> Vin- -> Input -> 0 to -10VDC Analog Control
> > Pin15 -> GND -> Ground
> > .
> > .
> >
> > Where I assume the Grounds are all Analog Ground.
> >
> > How do I physically connect this driver to the Kanalog with AGND &
AOut DAC
> > output on port JP11?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 1145 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 5/16/2011
Subject: Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
Hi Mark,
 
Yes.  The Kanalog DAC outputs are a +/-10V  analog signal relative to its ground.
 
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 1146 From: bb_lazar Date: 5/16/2011
Subject: Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
Tom,

Thanks for clearing all that up.
Just one more thing, the diagram I referred to has a shielded twisted cable connecting the controller and amplifier. Where can the cable shield be connected from the controller (KFLOP) side?



-Mark


--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Yes.  The Kanalog DAC outputs are a +/-10V  analog signal relative to its
> ground.
>
> TK
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bb_lazar bb_lazar@...
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 7:03:24 AM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
>
>  
> Tom,
>
> Great. I got confused since the Kanalog doesn't have V+/V- control
> signals that I have seen on other controllers.
> So it's not strictly a differential voltage output control, and it has
> to be wired like this to any amp with differential inputs I would
> assume?
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes tk@ wrote:
> >
> > Yes that looks correct to me.
> > TK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: bb_lazar bb_lazar@
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 12:21:25 AM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
> >
> > Â
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> >
> > I think I may have found the answer on page 16, Fig 4 of the AB5
> driver manual.
> >
> > Nanomotion Tech Documents
> >
> > 7th one from the bottom; "AB5 and AB51 Driver User Manual " . ( Can't
> seem to
> > put a direct link, it saves as an *.aspx extension)Â
> >
> >
> > It shows a single ended Analog input connection to the
> driver/amplifier.
> >
> > So the Kanalog outputs are connected as follows to the amp;
> > (Kanalog)GND -> (AB5) Vin(-)
> > (Kanalog) JP11 Pin1 -> (AB5) Vin(+)
> >
> > Note: the GND at the AB5 Driver/Amp is connected to the Vin(-) at the
> AB5 end.
> >
> > Does this make sense to you?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes tk@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what they mean. Did you try Googling and
> researching for manuals
> > >
> > > or other information?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: bb_lazar bb_lazar@
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:34:45 AM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > > I have some Nanomotion AB5 drivers for HR8 model Piezo motors. These
> have
> > > control inputs which says the following in a table in the manual;
> > >
> > >
> > > I/O Port Pinout(DB25 connector)
> > > Pin1 -> Vin+ -> Input -> 0 to 10VDC Analog Control
> > > Pin2 -> GND -> Ground ->
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > Pin14 -> Vin- -> Input -> 0 to -10VDC Analog Control
> > > Pin15 -> GND -> Ground
> > > .
> > > .
> > >
> > > Where I assume the Grounds are all Analog Ground.
> > >
> > > How do I physically connect this driver to the Kanalog with AGND &
> AOut DAC
> > > output on port JP11?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 1147 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 5/16/2011
Subject: Re: KFLOP+KANALOG controlling Nanomotion
Hi Mark,
 
I think the best bet would be to tie the shield also to a Kanalog ground on the Kanalog end and leave the shield open at the amplifier end.
 
Regards,
TK